Brakes seizing on help.

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Re: Brakes seizing on help.

Post by Ant161 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:13 pm

All the brake lines look fine.

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Re: Brakes seizing on help.

Post by Ladaman » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:20 pm

Do you think it has had a calliper change to Vitara brakes then?

If it has, are they on square, I mean the calliper isn't twisting in any way is it? Are these callipers on sliders? Do they move freely?
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Re: Brakes seizing on help.

Post by Ant161 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:30 pm

All moves freely. If I just crack the banjo undone to release pressure everything frees up..
The strange thing is no matter where I relieve the pressure ( banjo, top of flexi, master cylinder ) it frees of. The only thing I can think of is the 6 way valve thing.

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Re: Brakes seizing on help.

Post by Ladaman » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:47 pm

It sounds like a master cylinder issue then.

Can you get if off strip, clean and change seals as needed, or even just swap it for another?
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Re: Brakes seizing on help.

Post by twiss » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:02 pm

You mean this valve?


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Has your other zook not got one? Also have you tried completely draining the brakes and refilling? Might be some crap stuck in a pipe
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Re: Brakes seizing on help.

Post by Ant161 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:07 pm

I put the other master cylinder on and still no joy and it works perfect on the other one.
I would have thought that by now I have changed the fluid about 5 times with all the bleeding.
The other valve is on my other sj but it ends on ebay tomorrow so don't want to mess about with it incase it sells.

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Re: Brakes seizing on help.

Post by Darrell » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:03 pm

Not sure how the 6 way valve could cause this problem :er:
I only say this because my valve does one front, one rear from either feed from the master cylinder.
It is just your front brakes sticking on ?

Have a look at your valve plumbing as they are not all the same, some only have a 5 way valve and one side does the front brakes alone and the other side the rear brakes.
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Re: Brakes seizing on help.

Post by Ant161 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:36 pm

That's the same as mine. I agree with what you say but it is the only thing I have not changed and I don't know how they work. Is it unheard of for these to fail??? Thanks for the help.

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Re: Brakes seizing on help.

Post by Darrell » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:00 pm

Never heard of one failing.
Just wondering if it's possible for the servo to stick on applying force after you have braked :er: :er:

Strange one this !!
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Re: Brakes seizing on help.

Post by Edweird » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:10 pm

I thought the portioning valve was the gadget near the fuel filter?
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