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Swivel hub greasing and replacement rubber and felt

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:05 pm
by SteveR
Opinions needed please.
1986 sj410 swivel hubs have never been apart. There is no play in wheel bearings or king pins.
big rubber gasket and felts on swivel part are knackered and need replacing.

Do I just replace these bits and try to add grease via a bolt hole on top king pin plate or should I go in and have a good look and clean.

Where do I get new rubber gaskets and felts, approx how much ££ and can they be replaced without taking all apart ( think I read is possible on Italian site but my Italian is not good enough to fully understand )

Also what grease to use in there, especially if trying to go through bolt hole.

And what grease to pack into free wheeling hubs.

Today managed to change all oils in trasmissions and diffs using plastic syringe and tubing and lying on the my kid's old changing mat, almost luxury so glad I kept it.

Thanks
Steve

Re: Swivel hub greasing and replacement rubber and felt

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:09 pm
by dan_2k_uk
I would have it off and re-grease the cv's. To replace the seals without removing you would have to cut the seal. Also if oil is leaking from it you will need the inner seal that goes in the end of the axle tube.

Re: Swivel hub greasing and replacement rubber and felt

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:09 pm
by Jordi
To do felts and seals the whole stub axles need to be removed as they are a tight fit over the axles case end (the ball).

Think it is CV moly dab grease in the cv joint and LM grease for the bearings. I'll be corrected if i'm wrong.

Re: Swivel hub greasing and replacement rubber and felt

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:20 pm
by ferris
Really you need to strip the hubs to get the new felts on, but i have seen people cut the felts so they can just put them straight over the axle. I striped both my hubs down at the weekend and re greased everything. Its a messy job but worth doing. Dont pack the free wheeling hubs with normal grease its to thick. I usually clean them out and spray a load of lithium grease in there.

Re: Swivel hub greasing and replacement rubber and felt

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:27 am
by kiwizook
when I did mine, the felts were genuine suzuki, and came in two parts for each side. the rubber however was one piece, so axle will have to be taken apart to fit this on

Re: Swivel hub greasing and replacement rubber and felt

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:48 am
by twiss
Just so you guys know, it does say in the service manual that it is OK to cut the rubber seal. It just says to put the cut bit at the top

Re: Swivel hub greasing and replacement rubber and felt

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:56 am
by turbo-tom
twiss wrote:Just so you guys know, it does say in the service manual that it is OK to cut the rubber seal. It just says to put the cut bit at the top
But that defeats the object of a seal! It will probably be easier to strip it all down anyway probably!

Re: Swivel hub greasing and replacement rubber and felt

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:18 pm
by Ladaman
I'd imagine you can cut the seal and then use a super glue to put it back together. This is sometimes done with 'O' rings. You just need to ensure you align it correctly.

Then put the 'cut' at the top.

Re: Swivel hub greasing and replacement rubber and felt

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:32 pm
by dan_2k_uk
But if the CVs haven't been greased since 1986.......!

Re: Swivel hub greasing and replacement rubber and felt

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:43 pm
by Jordi
dan_2k_uk wrote:But if the CVs haven't been greased since 1986.......!
Should probably do mine at some point.