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recovery points ?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:59 pm
by duncslow
Hi folks, just been advised to fit good recovery points on my sj, trouble is I dont know the best way of doing this without heavy duty bumpers. I want to keep it as standard as possible looking as the origional bumpers and bull bar are in good condition. is there a bolt on option or is the welder going to have to be used.
any help/pics or suggestions greatly appreciated as Ive got no idea where to start.
regards Chris
Re: recovery points ?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:02 pm
by dazerede
There is one recovery point on the front of ur zook just beneath ur bumper which is all right to use but not sure about the back
Re: recovery points ?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:24 pm
by ScottieJ
dazerede wrote:There is one recovery point on the front of ur zook just beneath ur bumper which is all right to use but not sure about the back
No no no. that's not a suitable recovery point, it's just a tie down point, it's ok for flat towing on road but not offroad recovery, they bend and will also bend the front crossmember if used, I learnt that the first time I ever took my SJ offroad!
This is a cool idea, they are made out of 12mm plate
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Just need to cut a notch out of the front bumper
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Re: recovery points ?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:25 pm
by dan_2k_uk
The standard front tow hoop will take some pretty hard abuse but shouldn't be used and will eventually bend the front chassis crossmember a little. (I also learnt the hard way)
With regards to the rear if you are keeping it pretty standard then maybe go for a tow bar or a modified tow bar bracket with a hoop for a D-shackle on it.
Scottie beat me but I had written it anyway
Re: recovery points ?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:27 pm
by turbo-tom
dazerede wrote:There is one recovery point on the front of ur zook just beneath ur bumper which is all right to use but not sure about the back
I personally believe that there not designed to be recovered from , the eyes on beaneth the suzuki are lashing eyes so when they came out the factory etc and went on the transporters you can tie straps to them to secure them down, i wouldnt say these are recovery points but thats my view about it.
Im pretty sure there is one like this (in the link for suzuki sj's however i dont think this mehod will work with the front bumper in place
http://www.bits4vits.co.uk/store/vitara ... d_841.html
Edit: scottie beat me
Re: recovery points ?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:36 pm
by dazerede
ok so its alright for light on road stuff
Well I have heavey duty bumpers with shackles so I will be using them
Re: recovery points ?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:05 pm
by turbo-tom
and with the wrong know how the wrong ropes the wrong recovery points and not knowing how to pull someone out this can happen....
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f8d_1358386081
Re: recovery points ?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:15 pm
by ROBBIE
That has to be one of the dumbest place's to stand when doing a recovery
Re: recovery points ?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:26 pm
by Jordi
Can't stress the importance off propper recovery points.
They should be built to exceed the EP (estimated pull).
EP = RR (rolling resistance) + GR (gradient resistance) + DR (damage resistance) + SF (safety factory)
You also need to know the ground factor resistance, soil, gravel, sand, mud etc....
I'll work out an extreme scenario later if you want.
Jordi
Re: recovery points ?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:27 pm
by trotter
Yea i always work on i need to pull 3 tonne when truck is stuck..
Truck weighs under 1 tonne but my reasoning is if i have ensured all tow points and ropes, shackles etc are at least 3 tonne then i should never be in a position of danger from stuff snapping etc
Think most of my kit is actually rated for 5 tonne rated