More of the same crap we keep reading or something that might actually happen.
http://www.the-ace.org.uk/armageddon/#more-901
uh oh!
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dan_2k_uk
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I hate to say it but I can see it actually happening in this country. What a load of bullshit though our annual MOT covers pretty much everything and the system we already has in place works fine so what is the point.
Europe sucks, its almost like the European government is just trying to turn the whole of Europe into one country, look where the euro got us! It's a prime example of how 'Europe' just doesn't work
Europe sucks, its almost like the European government is just trying to turn the whole of Europe into one country, look where the euro got us! It's a prime example of how 'Europe' just doesn't work
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ScottieJ wrote:I hate to say it but I can see it actually happening in this country. What a load of bullshit though our annual MOT covers pretty much everything and the system we already has in place works fine so what is the point.
Europe sucks, its almost like the European government is just trying to turn the whole of Europe into one country, look where the euro got us! It's a prime example of how 'Europe' just doesn't work
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if it works then why change it ? 
some one always has to moan about someone being to happy
some one always has to moan about someone being to happy
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This is going to send a lot of companies out of business.
The likes of JE Engineering, Kahn, Powerflow and such.
Max Power and other modified motoring magazines too.
Websites and shops too.
The likes of JE Engineering, Kahn, Powerflow and such.
Max Power and other modified motoring magazines too.
Websites and shops too.
There's three ways of doing things:
The right way,
The wrong way
And my way, which is like the wrong way but faster.
The right way,
The wrong way
And my way, which is like the wrong way but faster.
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Dan are you a member of ACE or did you just chance upon this page?
Only asking because there is link to contact them;
All those who wish to be involved should contact us and we can discuss what is to be done to fight and also address any queries that need resolving.
Was thinking we need to be kept informed
Only asking because there is link to contact them;
All those who wish to be involved should contact us and we can discuss what is to be done to fight and also address any queries that need resolving.
Was thinking we need to be kept informed
Sid James gone but never forgotten
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Ive contacted them saying we'll support the cause.
Personally I don't actually think it will fully effect the UK, they tried a similar thing with motorbikes but the DFT just did there own thing pretty much ignoring the EU.we'll see though!
Personally I don't actually think it will fully effect the UK, they tried a similar thing with motorbikes but the DFT just did there own thing pretty much ignoring the EU.we'll see though!
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Good manScottieJ wrote:Ive contacted them saying we'll support the cause.
Didnt want to send loads of requests to them
Sid James gone but never forgotten
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Chanced upon it when a random facebook page popped up called "I hate VOSA"
Thought the comments on such a page would make for amusing reading then this was on there.
Personally I have no issue with VOSA
Dan
Thought the comments on such a page would make for amusing reading then this was on there.
Personally I have no issue with VOSA
Dan
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Some interesting reading, not saying it won't happen though!
As posted here http://www.the-ace.org.uk/chat_with_ace ... 5954#p5954
FBHVC Press Release:-
23 August 2012
EU ROADWORTHINESS TESTING
When the European Parliament Historic Vehicle Group (EPHVG) met in May, Szabolcs Schmidt the head of the EC Road Safety Unit, mentioned that proposals for revisions to the Roadworthiness Testing Directive, following a 2010 consultation, were expected ‘in the summer’. In July, the European Commission published the detail which turned out to be a proposal to replace the current Roadworthiness Testing Directive (2009/40/EC) with a completely new Directive.
The draft of the new Directive has implications for all motorists, not just historic vehicle owners. Amongst other things, the draft includes requirements to test all trailers (which in turn implies a registration system) and requires tests to make reference to a vehicle’s original ‘technical characteristics’. The meaning of this expression is not defined. National governments are granted the right to make their own testing arrangements for ‘vehicles of historic interest’. A vehicle of historic interest is then defined as one that
· Was manufactured more than 30 years ago
· Is maintained by use of replacement parts which reproduce the historic components of the vehicle
· Has not sustained in the technical characteristics of its main components such as engine, brakes, steering or suspension; and
· Has not been changed in its appearance.
FBHVC considers this definition to be unworkable and completely unacceptable. FBHVC also rejects the suggestion that Roadworthiness Testing should relate to a vehicle’s ‘technical characteristics’, whatever the age of the vehicle. Modifications, alterations and improvements are all part of the history of motor vehicles and the older the vehicle, the more likely it is that it will have been altered at some stage. At present the basic tenet of a UK MoT test is that it is one of mechanical fitness. There is no database of original specifications for UK vehicles, so testing to original 'technical characteristics' is simply pie-in-the-sky.
Earlier this month, the Department for Transport asked stakeholders for comment on the proposals. FBHVC will be responding formally to this request when further analysis of the detailed proposals has been completed. FBHVC will be discussing the implications of the proposal with the international organisation, FIVA, and through them with the EPHVG group as well as with the All Party Parliamentary Historic Vehicle Group in the UK.
It should be remembered that this is still just a proposal. It has to have approval by each EU member country before it is adopted. Some media commentary on this topic has tended towards the ‘we’re doomed’ end of the scale. It is certainly a serious issue and FBHVC is treating it accordingly.
Notes for Editors
The Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs works closely with a wide range of organisations and government departments to retain the freedom to use historic vehicles on the UK’s roads. The FBHVC has over 530 organisations as members representing around 251,000 individual owners.
As posted here http://www.the-ace.org.uk/chat_with_ace ... 5954#p5954
FBHVC Press Release:-
23 August 2012
EU ROADWORTHINESS TESTING
When the European Parliament Historic Vehicle Group (EPHVG) met in May, Szabolcs Schmidt the head of the EC Road Safety Unit, mentioned that proposals for revisions to the Roadworthiness Testing Directive, following a 2010 consultation, were expected ‘in the summer’. In July, the European Commission published the detail which turned out to be a proposal to replace the current Roadworthiness Testing Directive (2009/40/EC) with a completely new Directive.
The draft of the new Directive has implications for all motorists, not just historic vehicle owners. Amongst other things, the draft includes requirements to test all trailers (which in turn implies a registration system) and requires tests to make reference to a vehicle’s original ‘technical characteristics’. The meaning of this expression is not defined. National governments are granted the right to make their own testing arrangements for ‘vehicles of historic interest’. A vehicle of historic interest is then defined as one that
· Was manufactured more than 30 years ago
· Is maintained by use of replacement parts which reproduce the historic components of the vehicle
· Has not sustained in the technical characteristics of its main components such as engine, brakes, steering or suspension; and
· Has not been changed in its appearance.
FBHVC considers this definition to be unworkable and completely unacceptable. FBHVC also rejects the suggestion that Roadworthiness Testing should relate to a vehicle’s ‘technical characteristics’, whatever the age of the vehicle. Modifications, alterations and improvements are all part of the history of motor vehicles and the older the vehicle, the more likely it is that it will have been altered at some stage. At present the basic tenet of a UK MoT test is that it is one of mechanical fitness. There is no database of original specifications for UK vehicles, so testing to original 'technical characteristics' is simply pie-in-the-sky.
Earlier this month, the Department for Transport asked stakeholders for comment on the proposals. FBHVC will be responding formally to this request when further analysis of the detailed proposals has been completed. FBHVC will be discussing the implications of the proposal with the international organisation, FIVA, and through them with the EPHVG group as well as with the All Party Parliamentary Historic Vehicle Group in the UK.
It should be remembered that this is still just a proposal. It has to have approval by each EU member country before it is adopted. Some media commentary on this topic has tended towards the ‘we’re doomed’ end of the scale. It is certainly a serious issue and FBHVC is treating it accordingly.
Notes for Editors
The Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs works closely with a wide range of organisations and government departments to retain the freedom to use historic vehicles on the UK’s roads. The FBHVC has over 530 organisations as members representing around 251,000 individual owners.