Ignition system - IT IS ALIVE

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Ignition system - IT IS ALIVE

Post by twiss » Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:43 pm

Right, been wiring in Russ' ignition system

Got +ve and -ve going from distributor to ignition coil

Got a +ve coming from the key/ignition circuit, going to +ve terminal on the coil

Got the -ve from the coil going to body earth.

No spark!

Rotor arm is turning correctly...

On my spanish samurai, it's basically the same, but instead of going to the earth, the -ve leads disappear off into the loom via a plastic plug.
Is it something really obvious I've missed before I try a different coil? Hmmm
Should the -ve from the coil be earthing on the engine instead of the body? It was originally on the body before we took the engine out.
May have pulled an earth wire off I suppose? But the interior electrics still work
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Re: Ignition system, just checking

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:53 pm

Colours boyo colours? It's all about the colours :lol: did you not get my PM? What you got? Is russ's Jap or Spanish?

It should not be earthed to the body, only 3 wires, 2 to + and 1 to - to run.

The 4th is the rev counter and that is on - (prob the one disappearing into the loom on yours)
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Re: Ignition system, just checking

Post by twiss » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:01 pm

The colours are all weird cos its a jap SJ with a vit engine...

The circuit is as follows

If I connect a bulb across the terminals on the coil it is lighting up with the ignition on, not off
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Re: Ignition system, just checking

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:16 pm

I still need to know the colours that you have Twiss :lol:

What's going on with that blue? It should not be spliced and earthed? It should just link the coil and dizzy, there shouldnt be any wires earthed.

Black w/white tracer to coil + yeah?
What you got from dizzy to coil +?
What you got from dizzy to coil -?
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Re: Ignition system, just checking

Post by Darrell » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:51 pm

Got the -ve from the coil going to body earth.


Ditch that negative to body.
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Re: Ignition system, just checking

Post by Darrell » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:03 pm

I've read the vit wires are black/white tracer and brown/white tracer. Scottie confirmed this some months back (cheers) so have done this. Hope it's right :oops:
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Re: Ignition system, just checking

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:12 pm

That should be spot on Darrell, mine is as above but with a black with white tracer for ignition live from the loom to coil +

Just wanted to check what colours twiss had but he's ignoring me :thefinger:
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Re: Ignition system, just checking

Post by twiss » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:20 pm

Cheers for the diagram Darrell

That's quite random... I clearly remember removing the wire when we took the lump out!

It's the same coil and distributor as well. Strange. Earth lead removal time then!

Gotta charge the (flat) battery up now :)

As for colours, they are the sj413 colours, but there are some random wires coming out of russ' loom!!!
Looking at the electrics on it makes mine look professionally done! lol
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Re: Ignition system, just checking

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:25 pm

So what are the random wires colours :lol: then we can tell Ye what they are for (if they are for anything)
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Re: Ignition system, just checking

Post by Darrell » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:29 pm

mine is as above but with a black with white tracer for ignition live from the loom to coil +
Yes so is mine just until a connector next to the coil :thumbup:
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