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Track Rod Ends

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:51 pm
by border
Need a couple of Track rod ends for this steering bar, SJ410.
Anyone know part number or can I get Universal ones to fit ??
Thanks

Re: Track Rod Ends

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:30 pm
by ScottieJ
Unfortunately that one isn't replacable, you need to purchase a complete tie rod

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tie-Rod-End- ... SwFDpfggue

You can also get complete set ups from india as the Maruti Gypsy (not Gypsy king) has the same width axles as the 410. Prob best to email to make sure they send you the correct one before ordering because for some reason it also say samurai in the add.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-Sj410 ... SwZ2FfU~mp

Re: Track Rod Ends

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:08 pm
by Jordi
Won’t be much use on that Z bar though. Original replacements are a straight bar for SPUA.

Re: Track Rod Ends

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:50 pm
by border
ScottieJ wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:30 pm
Unfortunately that one isn't replacable, you need to purchase a complete tie rod

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tie-Rod-End- ... SwFDpfggue

You can also get complete set ups from india as the Maruti Gypsy (not Gypsy king) has the same width axles as the 410. Prob best to email to make sure they send you the correct one before ordering because for some reason it also say samurai in the add.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-Sj410 ... SwZ2FfU~mp
Thanks I thought they just screwed in at each end here http://www.euro4x4parts.com/suzuki_part ... ie_rod_end same as Landrover, thanks for links.

Re: Track Rod Ends

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:51 pm
by border
Jordi wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:08 pm
Won’t be much use on that Z bar though. Original replacements are a straight bar for SPUA.
So should I keep Z bar on for my over axle set up ?

Re: Track Rod Ends

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:19 pm
by ScottieJ
Jordi wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:08 pm
Won’t be much use on that Z bar though. Original replacements are a straight bar for SPUA.
It's only the drag link that is a Z bar, a new tie rod can be used with his Z bar.
border wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:50 pm

Thanks I thought they just screwed in at each end here http://www.euro4x4parts.com/suzuki_part ... ie_rod_end same as Landrover, thanks for links.
Only one rod can be changed on the tie, unfortunately its the opposite end to the one you need. You will need to run the Z bar with spoa (or you can convert to a much better high steer set up)

The first link i gave you is just the long half of the tie rod so if you bought that you would need to swap your o/s tie rod onto it (or buy a new one to go with it) if you bought the one in the 2nd link you wouldn't be able to use the drag link as you'd have to run your Z bar but you'd have a normal drag link spare if you ever did swap back to spua like you have previously mentioned.

Also I just remembered you have samurai axles so you would need the longer samurai set up, not the 410 ones :oops: These are samurai width ones, there are cheaper ones on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-SJ413 ... Swa0VZ6z8x

Re: Track Rod Ends

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:07 am
by border
ScottieJ wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:19 pm
Jordi wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:08 pm
Won’t be much use on that Z bar though. Original replacements are a straight bar for SPUA.
It's only the drag link that is a Z bar, a new tie rod can be used with his Z bar.
border wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:50 pm

Thanks I thought they just screwed in at each end here http://www.euro4x4parts.com/suzuki_part ... ie_rod_end same as Landrover, thanks for links.
Only one rod can be changed on the tie, unfortunately its the opposite end to the one you need. You will need to run the Z bar with spoa (or you can convert to a much better high steer set up)

The first link i gave you is just the long half of the tie rod so if you bought that you would need to swap your o/s tie rod onto it (or buy a new one to go with it) if you bought the one in the 2nd link you wouldn't be able to use the drag link as you'd have to run your Z bar but you'd have a normal drag link spare if you ever did swap back to spua like you have previously mentioned.

Also I just remembered you have samurai axles so you would need the longer samurai set up, not the 410 ones :oops: These are samurai width ones, there are cheaper ones on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-SJ413 ... Swa0VZ6z8x
Thanks Mate, It gets more complicated with the way my truck is built, if I ever get another I will make sure its all Origional instead of a mixture like this one. :shock: gonna have a good look at the whole front setup tomorrow , will take more pics.

Re: Track Rod Ends

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:28 pm
by border
Really Sorry. Think I made a mistake here. Its not the Track Rods on both ends of Bar, its the Ball Joints on each end of Z bar .
Can these be replaced ? Thanks

Re: Track Rod Ends

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:21 pm
by ScottieJ
The ball joint in the first picture is part of the tie rod. Looks like the rod end at the other end of the Z bar can't be replaced either so you are going to need a new Z bar making and a new tie rod unfortunately.

Yeah unfortunately modified Sjs can be a nightmare, especially with the lack of decent aftermarket parts suppliers in the UK, its the reason i build everything myself.

Re: Track Rod Ends

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:36 pm
by d_r_1989
Time to convert to half high steer i think