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Standard steering rod

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:05 pm
by ianedwards
Hi,

Does any one know the length of a standard 413 steering bar, I need to cut up my z bar and make a original one, I'd just prefer to check my measurmenof against some one else's before I start,

Cheers :thumbup:

Re: Standard steering rod

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:15 pm
by andyrew
Are you running samurai axles ?
Or 413?

Re: Standard steering rod

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:53 am
by ianedwards
413 axles,

just dont fancy bying a new one , they seem a bit expensive

Re: Standard steering rod

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:46 pm
by Anton
If you do this, make sure that it's both very strong, and doesn't look modified because I believe it's illegal to modify your steering components without taking an IVA test.

I could be wrong about that, though.

Re: Standard steering rod

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:57 pm
by ScottieJ
I might have a set of 410/413 steering links, will check for you if you want

Re: Standard steering rod

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:27 pm
by Darrell
Only found this
Don't know if it's to the ends or hole/ball-joint centres.
I could measure mine if it stopped bloody raining :cry:

Re: Standard steering rod

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:45 pm
by ianedwards
Hi, sorry guys, I tried posting earlier but it kept popping up an error,

Cheers for looking for one,

I've made one for now, didn't know about the alteration issue, so I'll get a new one at some point before the mot, or maby with enough paint it will look original, can be sure the weldings better than a original. Lol

When I had the engine checked my dad said The mot guy was happy with the z bar, and that's obviously not right lol.

Re: Standard steering rod

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:33 pm
by NylonAdmiral
You can weld suspension components and they will pass an MOT just fine. There is a caveat to this though.

Short version: Just don't do a shit job and don't weld a leaf spring or torsion bar (obviously).
Long version: http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_240.htm

Re: Standard steering rod

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:36 pm
by ScottieJ
NylonAdmiral wrote:You can weld suspension components and they will pass an MOT just fine. There is a caveat to this though.

Short version: Just don't do a shit job and don't weld a leaf spring or torsion bar (obviously).
Long version: http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_240.htm

Wrong section as far as steering components are concerned
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_220.htm

It's entirely up to the testers discretion but a lot will fail modified/welded steering components (i.e welded since the original manufacturing process)



method of inspection
e.
inappropriate modification or repairs, especially by welding, or evidence that excessive heat has been applied, to steering components or structural members

reason for rejection
e.
inappropriate structural modification or repair by welding to a steering linkage component, or signs of excessive heat having been applied

h.
deliberate modification which significantly reduces the original strength, excessive corrosion, severe distortion, a fracture or an inadequate repair of a load bearing member or its supporting structure or supporting panelling within 30cm of a steering component mounting, that is, within a ‘prescribed area’. See Appendix C.

Here's a prime example of something that should fail an MOT if the tester is doing his job properly
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Re: Standard steering rod

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:01 pm
by twiss
We can get the steering links here for about £60 for both bars... going to the parts man tomorrow so I will ask about them.
Not sure what the shipping would be like though