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Leaning suspension woes. Advice needed

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:41 pm
by d_r_1989
Hi all, after putting up with my front suspension leaning for a month or 2 Iv decided to do something about it.

So Iv took off some stiff and uknown springs with a very bodged leaf in the pack, I had a set of new unused front springs that came with the zook, original ones both the same height and feel very similar with a quick bounce on them, although they are 2" or so taller than the new ones. Then after driving home and back I fit some brand new add a leafs from llama. Which is where I'm at now. And still not level!!!

Pictures are back to front but the order of them is
Rear passenger
Rear drivers
Front passenger
Front drivers
Rear passenger
Rear driver
Front passenger
Front drivers
Front
Rear (all of those are with just one add a leaf on the drivers front!)
Last pic is new springs with one extra spring on each.

You can actually see my new springs bending around the add a leaf so I think the AAL's won't be getting fit.
The rear springs are a selection of springs both sides matching, with extra springs to help stop axle wrap.

And yes I did try the swapping original springs side to side and it made no difference. It did used to sit near as dammit straight!

Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong please! :er: :cry:

Re: Leaning suspension woes. Advice needed

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:06 pm
by ROBBIE
Number 4, the spring looks an odd shape to me, or is it just the pic :er:

Re: Leaning suspension woes. Advice needed

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:34 pm
by d_r_1989
That's the new springs trying to bend around the add a leaf.

Re: Leaning suspension woes. Advice needed

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:38 pm
by d_r_1989
:bawling: Nobody?

Re: Leaning suspension woes. Advice needed

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:19 pm
by Tramp
I'm sure I heard that standard leaves are handed so the drivers side has a little more go to it. After market springs are the same either side, as the driver sits in one side constantly, this side tends to wear and sag the spring first, I've heard a few solutions, one is swapping the drivers side for the passenger side as they both get the same chance to wear, another I heard was carrying around a couple of bags of sand in the passenger footwell to try and even it up until the springs are back at the same height, other than that I'm not sure,

Re: Leaning suspension woes. Advice needed

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:56 pm
by ScottieJ
What's itike without the shocks? Wonder if one of the shocks is sticking? It's common for them to lean a bit to the driver side but that seems really bad.

Re: Leaning suspension woes. Advice needed

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:09 pm
by d_r_1989
Tramp - Iv tried new springs and a mixture of old springs. It did sit straight for a good few month and then suddenly it's dropped rapidly. The first time I noticed it was when I moved the engine slightly over to the passenger side as it was sat a little wonky.

Scottie - good call, I know the drivers is free but I'll check make sure passenger one isn't getting stuck at full extension.

I know obviously weight of engine is quite abit more but it was sat relatively straight and the springs weren't brand new when I got it, far from to be honest. Only option I haven't tried is the original 'hd' springs and the add a leafs and hopefully they won't try bend around like the new ones have.

Re: Leaning suspension woes. Advice needed

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:14 pm
by d_r_1989
Ok so I have managed to get the suspension some what level but I'm not happy with the way Iv had to do it. Iv tried to upload pics but they won't load for some reason?

Iv used one of the original spring sets with the big numb leaf removed and another normal leaf in. So both springs have 4 leafs. The original (lifted?) spring on drivers side and one of the new spring sets with added normal leaf on passenger side.

The problem with is the springs are both the same distance from front bush to rear bush but the original(lifted?) ones are about an inch taller. So that's saying to me it's a longer spring? You can see this by the way the shackles sit,

Is this a major problem other than difference in articulation? I can fit the same springs to the passenger side so they match but then it will be higher on the passenger side and problem starts again!

Could it be chassis causing it? Maybe the rear springs? Front shockers both seem fine too

Re: Leaning suspension woes. Advice needed

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:33 pm
by d_r_1989
Pictures

Also in the first pic, when I lift it up using the hoist and a rope central on the bumper it lifts the passenger wheel well before the drivers side. Not sure if this has anything to with it?