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Re: what suspension lift to go for

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:14 am
by ScottieJ
parrotveasey81 wrote:
ScottieJ wrote:here is an example


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the rears on that one have not open'd up that far,the front has.
imo it would almost look like that if he just had flexy suspension without that type of shackle.

the only time the whhel that has dropped with flex shackles has little to no waight on it is when its fully open'd and its starting to lift,you try and pick the wheel up with your hands when they are only half open,i bet you cant :roll:


as with all suspension setup's there is always a compromise :thumbup:
If you notice in that picture the rear tyre has already lifted even though the rear shackles have not fully opened, I was using it to highlight that they CAN unload in certain situations.

Like I said in my original post, a well designed set up can work however when we are talking about a leaf spring set up with no links to control axle wrap and position (like a coil set up) drop links can cause more harm than good and they will reduce the life of your leaf springs.

IMO if you are ever going to use drop shackles then it should be a 'missing link' style set up as they work better than the 'D-flex' style ones. I wouldn't think twice about installing a set of trail tough missing links with YJs as they have been proven to work well and not unload or have slop like some others do.

At the end of the day you can set up your vehicle however you want it but I personally would not use drop shackles because in my opinion the negatives outweigh the positives.

Re: what suspension lift to go for

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:54 pm
by xiztrn
Ok, interesting stuff. Thanks for all the input.

So if I dont go with the flex shackles (slowly being turned off them, not 100% yet though :P) where/how am I best to get the 2" lift i want?

Also, 1 x GOLD STAR to twiss for the amazing drawing :D

Re: what suspension lift to go for

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:28 pm
by twiss
hahah thanks mate :P

I'll put it next to my
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Re: Calmini Shackle Reverse

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:40 pm
by ScottieJ
xiztrn wrote:The flex shackles give 1" lift, so a possibility?

what's the easiest way to get another inch, think I'll be happy with total 5" ;)
I thought you only wanted an extra 1" :lol: if so why not a 1" body lift or some slightly longer shackles. slightly longer shackles don't really hurt, it's when you go for really long shackles the problems start :lol:

or you could get another set of 3" lift rear springs, run those in the front and just run some longer shackles in the rear?

Re: what suspension lift to go for

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:17 pm
by xiztrn
Interesting with the rear springs, im assuming they are bigger than the front ones then?

I want 2" more lift ;)

What is involved with a body lift? The 2" body lift kits are pretty cheap but im guessing its a lot of work?

Its my only transport so would have to be something i could do over a weekend.

Re: what suspension lift to go for

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:06 pm
by xiztrn
Ok, if i where to move the rear springs to the front, wouldnt I need a new shackle for it to fit without welding?

If I where to do that, could I get rascal springs for the back? (some like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REAR-LEAF-SPR ... 2350wt_907" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

Will they fit on as they are?

Im assuming they will then need a 2inch lift shackle to match the height of the front?

Re: what suspension lift to go for

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:52 pm
by xiztrn
Bored of me now? :hahaha:

Re: what suspension lift to go for

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:55 pm
by twiss
Yes :P

You've already got 3" lift springs, so putting rascal springs would be the wrong direction to go in really...

Re: what suspension lift to go for

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:03 pm
by xiztrn
So that wouldnt work with scotts idea of putting the rear springs on the front and getting new rear springs? (I would need new 3" lift ones?)

Also, as asked, can that be done without too much hasstle i.e. no welding etc?

Re: what suspension lift to go for

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:31 pm
by ScottieJ
shouldn't be too hard to knock up some adapters for the rears up front, you can prob do it with just an angle grinder and drill, it would also improve the stock front shackle angle that is crap :lol: I think it's one of the reasons SJs ride so rough.

Then yes you want 3" lift springs + some lift shackles to level the truck out at the rear.