softer suspension

Post your questions about your suspension and steering problems here!
User avatar
ScottieJ
The Boss
The Boss
Posts: 11618
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:13 pm
Location: Chippenham, wiltshire

Re: softer suspension

Post by ScottieJ » Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:21 am

Personally I would never Grease/oil or wrap my springs. Number one because crap WILL get in, number two because it will be a pain in the arse to work around and number 3 it's bad for the environment when wading through fords or any water etc. there's enough land rovers leaking oil everywhere as it is, we don't need to make it worse.

If you use hmpw strips there's no need anyway, I would use something around 2mm thick maximum.
Zuki Build

Steady as she goes!

kdalton
Got muddy boots
Got muddy boots
Posts: 40
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:11 am

Re: softer suspension

Post by kdalton » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:00 am

2mm thick.i thought you just use uhmwpe tape between the leaves.which is .005 thick.which is half a mm.

Anton
I spend far too much time on here
I spend far too much time on here
Posts: 3859
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:12 pm
Location: London

Re: softer suspension

Post by Anton » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:39 am

Good point, Scottie - didn't think of that! I never liked the idea of wrapping my springs either, but my thinking was that I want to be able to see the leaf springs so if something cracks, I can replace the spring before it fails altogether!
1985 SJ413VX (SJ50V) with SPOA, rear disc brakes, 31x10.5R15 Kaiman Malatesta tyres, an MOT and a lot left to do!

My: Build thread To-do list Pay and Play map

User avatar
Ladaman
Suzuki Guru
Suzuki Guru
Posts: 1090
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:56 pm
Location: Huddersfield, W. Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: softer suspension

Post by Ladaman » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:21 am

kdalton wrote:2mm thick.i thought you just use uhmwpe tape between the leaves.which is .005 thick.which is half a mm.
Half a mm in imperial is about 0.020"
YouTube
Ignis Sport 1.5 16V; Jimny gearbox, 410 transfer box; 5.125:1 Vitara diffs; rear Lockright, Rob Storr full float rear axle, rear discs, YJ springs, virtual lift, 31" Grizzly Claws, beadlock rims, +50mm LR arches, LED rear lights, LED roof spots, bucket seats, Luke harnesses, internal cage

User avatar
ScottieJ
The Boss
The Boss
Posts: 11618
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:13 pm
Location: Chippenham, wiltshire

Re: softer suspension

Post by ScottieJ » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:01 pm

kdalton wrote:2mm thick.i thought you just use uhmwpe tape between the leaves.which is .005 thick.which is half a mm.
It's available thicker than that, you can get 0.067" (1.7mm) I can imagine thin stuff wearing out quite fast.
Zuki Build

Steady as she goes!

Anton
I spend far too much time on here
I spend far too much time on here
Posts: 3859
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:12 pm
Location: London

Re: softer suspension

Post by Anton » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:13 pm

.005 is not half a mm in metric either.

.5 is 5 decimeters.
.05 is 5 centimeters
.005 is 5 milimeters

Half a mm is 0.0005. If you've seen .005 tape, assuming it's talking in meters, it's 2.5x thicker than Scottie's 2mm recommended maximum. If it's .005 cm, then it's a twentieth of a mm thick. Which is probably too thin to make tape from, and even if it's not, I'd imagine it's probably too thin to last more than a couple of days. It'll just rub off, I think!
1985 SJ413VX (SJ50V) with SPOA, rear disc brakes, 31x10.5R15 Kaiman Malatesta tyres, an MOT and a lot left to do!

My: Build thread To-do list Pay and Play map

User avatar
ScottieJ
The Boss
The Boss
Posts: 11618
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:13 pm
Location: Chippenham, wiltshire

Re: softer suspension

Post by ScottieJ » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:39 pm

0.005" Anton ;) I would presume he's looked at the links in the thread linked on the previous page.
Zuki Build

Steady as she goes!

Anton
I spend far too much time on here
I spend far too much time on here
Posts: 3859
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:12 pm
Location: London

Re: softer suspension

Post by Anton » Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:07 pm

Ah, when he said it was half a mm, that confused me. I assumed that with him talking about 0.5mm vs .005 he was talking metric vs metric.

.005" is in my brain about 0.125mm, which is a lot, lot thinner than half a mm. My brains say that 1" is about 2.5cm, so I assumed he wasn't talking imperial vs metric.

Actually, google says it's 0.127mm. So I wasn't far off!
1985 SJ413VX (SJ50V) with SPOA, rear disc brakes, 31x10.5R15 Kaiman Malatesta tyres, an MOT and a lot left to do!

My: Build thread To-do list Pay and Play map

User avatar
djc
Can I have a tow
Can I have a tow
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:11 am
Location: Sevenoaks, Kent

Re: softer suspension

Post by djc » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:23 pm

I find it very handy to use a basic 0.1mm = 4 thou (inch). A mm is 40 thou near 'nuff.
I saw tape also (eBay) .305mm if I recall (12 thou-ish). Will have to look for the thicker stuff.
Straight n shiny '85 410 soft top.

Douglas

kdalton
Got muddy boots
Got muddy boots
Posts: 40
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:11 am

Re: softer suspension

Post by kdalton » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:28 am

ive took leaf spring off cleaned painted and im thinking of uhmwpe tape.how long does the tape last for on the springs.thanks

Post Reply