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Re: suspension too hard!

Post by Tramp » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:27 pm

For colinl's benefit this is how your shock is mounted when its standard

On to the rear of your springplate

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Re: suspension too hard!

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:37 pm

I'm with Dan.

Looks like the shocks need to be relocated back the lower mounts on the spring plates instead of the new mounts welded to axle. Well that's if they haven't been cut off!

And yes those are ironman springs, I used to run them with astra shocks and whilst they are firm they do soften up. I used to run them and flex wasn't amazing but it wasn't that bad either.
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Re: suspension too hard!

Post by Edweird » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:42 pm

Moving the shock from an above axle mounting to a below axle mounting will limit the travel more won't it?
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Re: suspension too hard!

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:52 pm

kind of but it will allow you to run a longer shock, it looks as if the shock is bottoming out so lowering the lower shock mount will allow more up travel bit limit droop with his existing shocks.

The pics above of mine were with Astra shocks on original front mounts but with an adapter bar for the rear shocks, with the rear shocks slightly inboarded.

Oh and with the ironmans dont forget to lower the front bumpstops and rear bump stop pads with some 2" box section so that you don't over flex the springs.
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Re: suspension too hard!

Post by colinl » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:25 pm

Tramp wrote:For colinl's benefit this is how your shock is mounted when its standard

On to the rear of your springplate

My apologies for the poor quality of the photo!
This is how mine is set up.I have tried it without any shocks on and its still the same so is this not the springs that are too hard? I measured my shocks on the front and fully extended they are 21" but they dont get to extend fully when on the SJ. Would i not be better taking out a leaf from each spring to try and soften them up?

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Re: suspension too hard!

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:40 pm

:er: in the pic you posted i can see the lower shock mount is welded to the axle tube not the Ubolt plate like they are standardin tramps pic? I can't tell what axle this is in the pic? Is it like this front and rear?
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The pic I posted is of mine with all the leafs left in the pack so they should flex better after they've softened up a bit. Could try pulling a leaf out of each spring it's up to you.

You do need to make sure that the shocks aren't bottoming out still though as that won't be any good for the shock.
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Re: suspension too hard!

Post by Tramp » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:53 pm

Got to be rear axle because of the brake line? Only the rear has the common brake flex which then splits on the axle

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This is the original shock mount isn't it?
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Re: suspension too hard!

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:01 pm

Oh yeah I didn't spot that on my phone, had a feeling it might've been the rear ;)
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Re: suspension too hard!

Post by colinl » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:07 pm

ScottieJ wrote::er: in the pic you posted i can see the lower shock mount is welded to the axle tube not the Ubolt plate like they are standardin tramps pic? I can't tell what axle this is in the pic? Is it like this front and rear?
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The pic I posted is of mine with all the leafs left in the pack so they should flex better after they've softened up a bit. Could try pulling a leaf out of each spring it's up to you.

You do need to make sure that the shocks aren't bottoming out still though as that won't be any good for the shock.

The pic is of the rear axle but it does still have the original mounts as you can just make out on the pic.The front mountings are standard using the U-bolt plate .

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Re: suspension too hard!

Post by andyrew » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:14 pm

:er: so with the shocks removed there was no flex improvement .. hmmm

time to try taking a leaf out i guess.

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