G16 into sj410 info

Engine not running right? see if we can help you!
User avatar
djc
Can I have a tow
Can I have a tow
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:11 am
Location: Sevenoaks, Kent

Re: G16 into sj410 info

Post by djc » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:08 pm

My '85 Jap 410 already has a 1.3 5spd in it, so not totally original anyway. So I got to thinking maybe a Vit 1.6. First thing is there are 8v and 16v Vit engines around and also maybe carb and F/I variants. I'm actually quite happy with a well-sorted carb set-up (got SU on at moment) but what is recommended and pros n cons please.
Straight n shiny '85 410 soft top.

Douglas

User avatar
twiss
SCUK Computer Wizard
SCUK Computer Wizard
Posts: 6110
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:28 pm
Location: Birkirkara, Malta
Contact:

Re: G16 into sj410 info

Post by twiss » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:32 am

8v with carb is definitely the easiest, pretty much bolt in and go (with adapter plate and skinny starter motor)
SU should work fine on it with some re-tuning, will probably need a new needle and springs. Easy to get from sucarb.co.uk ... about £20 for both I think
The injection is obviously going to be better, but if you are going to the trouble of wiring it up, 100% go for the 16v instead of the 8v.
The 8v injection is through a throttle body... not much better than carb :P
The 16v injection is multi point.
Twiss

'93 Suzuki Samurai Sport 1.6 16v SU. Virtual lift, spring under, 31s
'93 Maruti Gypsy MG410

"If brute force doesn't fix your problem, you aren't using enough of it."

User avatar
ScottieJ
The Boss
The Boss
Posts: 11621
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:13 pm
Location: Chippenham, wiltshire

Re: G16 into sj410 info

Post by ScottieJ » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:02 pm

16v mpfi......Out performs all the others, yes it involves a lot more wiring but it's worth it.
Zuki Build

Steady as she goes!

User avatar
djc
Can I have a tow
Can I have a tow
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:11 am
Location: Sevenoaks, Kent

Re: G16 into sj410 info

Post by djc » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:17 pm

Thanks Twiss and Scottie - excellent info. I'll go read up on the wiring of a 16v next... but I might like the simplicity of an 8v/carb set-up.
Straight n shiny '85 410 soft top.

Douglas

User avatar
ScottieJ
The Boss
The Boss
Posts: 11621
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:13 pm
Location: Chippenham, wiltshire

Re: G16 into sj410 info

Post by ScottieJ » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:42 pm

There's not really anything complicated about the 16v mpfi, it's early injection so there not even a huge amount of sensors and it's very reliable.
Zuki Build

Steady as she goes!

User avatar
djc
Can I have a tow
Can I have a tow
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:11 am
Location: Sevenoaks, Kent

Re: G16 into sj410 info

Post by djc » Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:06 pm

Ok, i'm going to start looking for a decent 16v I think - may try a wanted here. Thanks again.
Straight n shiny '85 410 soft top.

Douglas

marve114
Engaged 4wd low
Engaged 4wd low
Posts: 102
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 10:52 pm

Re: G16 into sj410 info

Post by marve114 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:27 pm

Sorry to start up an old thread but I’d like more info on this as I’ve got a bog standard 410

Anton
I spend far too much time on here
I spend far too much time on here
Posts: 3859
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:12 pm
Location: London

Re: G16 into sj410 info

Post by Anton » Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:09 am

What would you like to know?
1985 SJ413VX (SJ50V) with SPOA, rear disc brakes, 31x10.5R15 Kaiman Malatesta tyres, an MOT and a lot left to do!

My: Build thread To-do list Pay and Play map

marve114
Engaged 4wd low
Engaged 4wd low
Posts: 102
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 10:52 pm

Re: G16 into sj410 info

Post by marve114 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:18 am

Is there a thread some place going through the process on a 410 covering engine mounts etc ?

Anton
I spend far too much time on here
I spend far too much time on here
Posts: 3859
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:12 pm
Location: London

Re: G16 into sj410 info

Post by Anton » Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:28 pm

:lol:

Yes. This very thread. Check the very first post, Scottie talks all about engine mounts for 410 to 1.6 conversion.

;)
1985 SJ413VX (SJ50V) with SPOA, rear disc brakes, 31x10.5R15 Kaiman Malatesta tyres, an MOT and a lot left to do!

My: Build thread To-do list Pay and Play map

Post Reply