SJ410 -1985 'Cabrio', engine rebuild

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Re: SJ410 -1985 'Cabrio', engine rebuild

Post by twiss » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:42 am

Hi,

Quick note on electric fans... be warned, with electric fans you get what you pay for!
I had a £20 ebay special which packed up in short order.
My current fan looks almost identical, apart from an obviously better quality motor and fan blades
Cost £60 and has so far lasted 3 times as long as the cheap one!!!
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Re: SJ410 -1985 'Cabrio', engine rebuild

Post by Rhinoman » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:18 am

The cheap ones probably don't move a lot of air either. For a good quality cheap fan have a rummage around the local breakers.
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Re: SJ410 -1985 'Cabrio', engine rebuild

Post by twiss » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:57 am

I didn't have that problem, managed to keep my 1.6 16v engine cool despite only having a sammy radiator
However, I agree with rhinoman, if you go to a breakers there are plenty of cars about with electric fans and you can probably find a cheap kenlow or something

I have found that a 14" fan is pretty good for a samurai/413 rad, whereas a 12" fan is suitable for a 410 radiator
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Re: SJ410 -1985 'Cabrio', engine rebuild

Post by ROBBIE » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:34 am

Peugeot, crap cars good leccy fans
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Re: SJ410 -1985 'Cabrio', engine rebuild

Post by twiss » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:44 am

You would probably still have to buy your own temp switch, most modern-ish cars seem to have their leccy fan controlled by the ECU, but temp switches to fit SJ top hoses are easy to get hold of on Ebay
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Re: SJ410 -1985 'Cabrio', engine rebuild

Post by binge » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:04 pm

Will run it off a dash mounted switch anyway so I have full control of it. Don't want it coming on just as I'm about to dive into some water.

Used to work for a breakers so will go down there when I get a chance to get a few rads. This one will do for now, needed one sharpish as the viscous is starting to damage my radiator (Which is a brand new rad).
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Re: SJ410 -1985 'Cabrio', engine rebuild

Post by twiss » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:14 am

Yeah similar set up to what I have then
I have my fan running via a relay, switch, and temp sensor
Only problem is I only had one switch at the time of wiring so the fuel pump is on the same switch
if I want to wade I have to get out before the float bowl empties itself ;)
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Re: SJ410 -1985 'Cabrio', engine rebuild

Post by ScottieJ » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:35 am

binge wrote:Will run it off a dash mounted switch anyway so I have full control of it. Don't want it coming on just as I'm about to dive into some water.

Used to work for a breakers so will go down there when I get a chance to get a few rads. This one will do for now, needed one sharpish as the viscous is starting to damage my radiator (Which is a brand new rad).
Mines set up on a thermo switch and 3 way switch...so it's either temp controlled, on or off. this is the best set up I think as you don't want to just have it 100% manually controlled. it's too easy to forget to turn it on and then overheat. I just leave mine on the thermoswitch and then flick it off if i'm going into deep water
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Re: SJ410 -1985 'Cabrio', engine rebuild

Post by binge » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:12 am

Good idea that ^^

Just another thought. Diff breathers...
My diffs just have the plastic caps on them. Are these suffice to keep water out, or should I remove them, and run pipes up to the roof?
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Re: SJ410 -1985 'Cabrio', engine rebuild

Post by ScottieJ » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:51 am

Remove them and run pipes....the caps never work :lol: don't to forget Tbox and gearbox breathers as well.
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