Rear springs up front, racal springs on rear..

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Re: Rear springs up front, racal springs on rear..

Post by Jay18 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:48 pm

haha are they softer than pro comp es1000's or as soft as?

and where can i get some from if they are softer than the standard ones?
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Re: Rear springs up front, racal springs on rear..

Post by Jordi » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:58 pm

Fairly soft from what the others say. Available at any motor factors
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Re: Rear springs up front, racal springs on rear..

Post by Jay18 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:04 am

hmmm, is there a certain series of KYB shocks? like pro comp have es1000 es3000 and es9000
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Re: Rear springs up front, racal springs on rear..

Post by Jordi » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:16 am

It's the astra shocks. There's a part number on here somewhere.
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Re: Rear springs up front, racal springs on rear..

Post by Jay18 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:09 am

They're for 2" lift aren't they? Not sure what lift I'll get from the RRRUF, don't really want to lift it cause it's a good height as it is so if I can do the conversion so it doesn't lift it by much they'll be good like Scottie did with his YJ's
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Re: Rear springs up front, racal springs on rear..

Post by Richie » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:56 pm

when I did this to mine I found that I only needed the astra shocks on the front, some how I have 4 which didn't get fitted lol. I used missing links which drop down when you jack it up. I found that I got so much articulation that I had to completly cut off the shock mounts at the front and make new ones. word of warning the astra shock are long but they do give a nice (softish) ride on the road

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Re: Rear springs up front, racal springs on rear..

Post by Jay18 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:59 pm

Okay so I know I have to move spring mounts for the rears up front but what about the rascal rears? Do I need missing link shackles/move the spring mounts or will extended shackles do it?
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Re: Rear springs up front, racal springs on rear..

Post by Richie » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:11 pm

From what I can remember the rear rascal spring are the same length as the rear sj springs. they are a direct replacement and I didn't have to mod anything on the rear only swap them over.

However :) when it comes to putting the rear springs on the front they are alittle longer and because of that it moves your axle forward about a inch if you don't redrill the location holes. (but by moving it forward a inch gives you more room and a better approach angle. You have to make a bracket to hold the shackles about 2 inches forward than normal. I will try put a pic up of what I did with the missing links (had to build supporting bracket for the top of them) ither way u have to make something

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Re: Rear springs up front, racal springs on rear..

Post by Jay18 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:12 pm

I would rather move the axle foreward an inch so all I need to do is put the rear of the spring in the normal chassis mount then either make a new mount further foreward for the shackle of buy/make some missing link/d-flex shackles with a resting plate on the chassis...

I'm guessing the steering will be okay with the axle moving foreward? Did you need a prop spacer aswel? As I'm guessing one is needed with the axle being further away from the tbox

If you could post a few pics of yours then that would be great!

So rascal rears are a straight swap using the standard shackles?
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Re: Rear springs up front, racal springs on rear..

Post by Richie » Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:20 pm

yea you need a 1 inch prop spacer I got mine from jimny bits for about £40.

The rascle rears are a straight swap, I made my shackles when I was finish to make the vehicle sit the way I wanted it to. But standard ones would be fine. What size tyres are u putting on?

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